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Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Maksudur Rahman — Sun, 17 May 2009 04:36:08 -0000

I know none of us like to see any bad reputation for our beloved North South University. We spent our greatest part of life here. We love our university, every inch of it. Whatever unwanted, unfortunate happened, those are past, some of us tried our best to avoid those and risk their lives to control some others. Anyway, I like to salute North South University authority for their learned & conscience decision. Thank you North South University for saving our dreams to be a graduate from NSU, we will never forget you. Where ever we go, NSU will always be with us. We are proud to be NSUers. We congratulate our father like figure, Dr. Hafiz G. A. Siddiqi, Vice Chancellor, NSU, our Proctor, Deans, Professors, Lecturers and all the faculties. We are all colleagues. We build this North South University. It is our university. We also will never forget our country, the people of Bangladesh. In every sense, we get this opportunity to be a student of NSU, is because of them. We will pay our return for this sad little country through North South University which is a center for excellence in higher study.

Maksud, NSU

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Sharzil — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:26:31 -0000

well Mr./Ms./whatever NotOnAside, you think the protest was violent? if we were violent we wouldn't wait till 5pm to start a chaos. we only wanted to talk to our VC. he comes us tells us he would consult the BOG members and give their response. after that the rat went into his hole and never came out. then we went upstairs (and there was no violence) passing by all the glassy doors and labs. the student only wanted a word from VC but they started beating up the students by police. you the students would be sitting ducks then? the hell with you man, what you'd do in that situation. so don't blabber about what you don't know. don't be fooled by the deceptive newspapers and rumors

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Nusrat — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:24:16 -0000

NOTonAside,......theres nothing to say bout your post!!but no doubt u r insane!!!get a life!! ....stop blabberin shit lyk sicK!!!

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

raiseYOURvoice — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:22:26 -0000

dear NOTonAside...
i dont wanna argue... um going to answer your points simply... hope your car won't be smashed by that...

>>>1 :
were you there when the glasses of HIS HIGHNESS's office were being smashed??? do ya know what was goin on there??? you have seen an injured policeman, well have you seen any of the students who r injured more than he was??? or have you seen any of the girls who was beaten, kicked more specificly by YOUR dearest rich feet sucking POLICEMEN??? :)
plus, how do you know that those broken pieces of glasses were used to attack the POLICE ??? how do you know that those are real blood ??? did you see a flow of blood, or you just saw some spots on his white t shirt under his uniform??? if he was injured by glasses, then why only his under garment was wet by blood, not the uniform??? did you even see scratches on his uniform which may be caused by the broken glasses???
do you really know who started the violence??? do you think that if we were really violent then a huge amount of students as we were, only injure a police guy, n no1 else???

"I don’t think throwing stones blindly is very non-violent either."
that;s what you said... well do you know where it happened ??? outside the building... because there were no substances like stone or anything that breaks that kind of thick glasses of STR building ( you know, right? )... & lastly when this throwing had started??? for your kind information, there are more witnesses than you can imagine, right after the POLICE broke the glasses of gate to enter, & started to beat your clasmates... you can go & ask people who were actualllllly there, who did not at 3 pm...

>>>2 :
sorry I don't blv you... we do care & we care... that's why we raised our voice & stand up together... not all the people are sick like that & not all the people state things that they have never actuallly seen... were you there when a guy of NSU protestors was taking every charges made by you dearest polices to save one our sisters ??? you were not there I guess...

>>>3 :
you said mob, right ? we wanted to talk to our VC... we wanted to go to his office... but there was a big but between his office n us... n this but was none other than your proctor, the drunken master who even doesn't know what proctoring is ( well, he knows 1 thing, thats what we heard better than anything, EMpTYING BOTTTLEEESSS, do i have to mention what bottles ?)...
anyway, we wanted to go up, but the drunken master did not allow us to do... rather he blocked the stairs... i repeat, he blocked the stairs... when a path is blocked, then its not blocked 4 a particular side... its blocked both ways... so heres the thing you were blocked by the Proctor of NSU... & we did block anyone...

>>>4 :
no wonder why you are not in a public varsity... if you were, your car would be smashed by now... but these people were not violent actually... it was the proctor who was provoking the protestors to behave like that...

anyway it was a waste of time answering you... It is easy to type bullshitz sitting in a air conditioned room... but it is hard to feel these things unless you are in our shoes...

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Bgbabu — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:18:35 -0000

Great job, man!!!!!

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

ishrat hasan — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:13:29 -0000

y d u hate ds country...so whch country u luv...?!?!? :S:S:S:S NSU r admin fees baraise dekhe ekkebare country kei hate...how lame!!

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Andalib — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:10:14 -0000

U r right. ami mutamuti shobar kasei shunlam je police age marpit shuru korse.

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Yousuf — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:08:03 -0000

vaya ata pichon thake tola hoice r opposite thake policer mar khaya jara age ber hoice tarai vangtese ...

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Tanzil Tafheem — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:04:53 -0000

Karon taka guloto ora kheye felse!

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Andalib — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:02:05 -0000

I think u r right, Imti. ami eki rokom news shuntesi.

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

H M Elius — Sat, 16 May 2009 00:49:58 -0000

hmm looks like they are stalling...

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Bgbabu — Fri, 15 May 2009 17:10:01 -0000

u r not supposed to call it a 'Minor Event'.For us, it was a decision that has a huge impact in our life...our future. It'll decide what we're gonna do next, ...whether to leave nsu or not. Some students are even in the verge of quitting study...and u guys are treating it as a minor event. Great! And what if it was a 'DU' incident????? No wonder why ppl of this region are so insensitive and selfish.

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Meroon — Thu, 14 May 2009 02:02:43 -0000

Read this - http://www.northsouth.edu/p...

Then read this news - http://www.bdnews24.com/det...

Isn't this cheating by the NSU authorities...

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Maneka A. Faizi — Wed, 13 May 2009 14:17:09 -0000

No...not so fast! There's the case and the expelsion of 60 students! These havent been cleared out yet. We dont want our fellow friends to be in trouble. And it still doest say wether the old students of Architecture department still have to pay the extra Tk.3000 as Studio fees. Same goes to the Phamacy, Biochemistry,EECS,MPH,ENV students who were asked to pay Tk.500 extra as their Lab fees.

We have just won half the battle.

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

NSUer — Wed, 13 May 2009 14:12:23 -0000

I can never disagree with anything that you have written.
Thanks for being there. I wish all the media companies was unbiased.
Daily star Prothom alo too are corrupted. Its a sad day

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

aditto — Wed, 13 May 2009 13:47:57 -0000

CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE!

JUSTICE PREVAILS!

HAVE FUN, CELEBRATE... AND DON'T FORGET TO GET A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP!

... surely i need one. ;)

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

CooL — Wed, 13 May 2009 13:30:59 -0000

the authority should publish the news on the daily newspapers as they did that today

NSU's shameless, greedy authority haven't won

and they will never win!!

Say NO to this ADMIN
Say NO to the VC, Dr Amirul Islam, GMD and the Proctor

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

samarine — Wed, 13 May 2009 12:58:04 -0000

finally we won.................finally we got da justice. thank god.... nsu students rocks..................

check nsu website....

http://www.northsouth.edu/p...

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Muhymin — Wed, 13 May 2009 00:51:38 -0000

Have you guys seen the utter rubbish published in the newspapers? NSU has circulated a big notice on the whole incident. Can the students do something like this? Get each student to contribute and the students post their version and the actual calculation. We should really get in touch with Mr MMz. He can guide us. Students should also contribute to hire a lawyer to represent us. Non profit org my ***.

This is s quote from a particularly powerful Dept Director at our university. Although its a couple of years old.

'We need 8 students per class to break even for that class'. Calculate = Profits from the rest 25 students

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

aditto — Tue, 12 May 2009 17:19:58 -0000

nice post and a lot of nice replies as well! congrats!!

we are really proud that we had all those people beside us at the protests... but that was not even close to enough. out of about 8000 students that are currently enrolled in the university, 500/600 is only a handful... its not going to work. we need 2000+ students at least in order to continue our movement and in order for it to work.

as much as i hate to say it, we are being cornered. it is confirmed that a list of 110 students (and counting) has been made, through some kind of identification. nobody has to be a genius in order to realize that some students are helping the authority with the recognitions and identifications. if anyone hears about any of these f*cking traitors, please remember them. they will be dealt with later.

the authority has told the students to collect their passwords on the 13th/14th. it is assumed that some arrests will be made, based on a word from the IGP. we are trying to deal with the whole thing to the fullest extent of our capabilities with all our contacts, some of which have already failed. meanwhile, PLEASE, DO TRY TO KEEP A LOW PROFILE AND MAKE SURE THAT YOUR FRIENDS ARE TRUSTWORTHY. we do not think that the movement will be a success in the short run, but it will, without a doubt, pave a path for similar movements in the future... not just for us, but for all the private universities in bangladesh. as for the public ones, i don't think we need to worry much about them... i believe we all know that they handle their problems very well, no matter how drastic the measures are.

you see... we are the tiniest part of a system, which is entirely made of money. needless to say that the BOG is nothing short of a huge syndicate of corporate magnates. we do have quite a few legal grounds on which we can sue them, but winning any of the suits is very unlikely. therefore, we should wait for a few days and see if we can find a way to put some pressure on the administration. if we do manage to do that, there will be a lot of options to choose from and we will proceed accordingly. we are consulting supreme court lawyers, secretaries at ministries and even ministers to find a way. from our very recent experiences, this will be very hard, but we will try our best nevertheless.

in the case that doesn't happen... please collect your passwords and go for your advising, because most parents will not approve of dropping semesters because of this whole mess, i believe. but it will be a choice for you and your family to make, of course. you can drop semesters alright, but once the higher price is settled, it is not going down... that's for sure.

if you have been supporting the protest on moral grounds only and can pay the extra amount, please do not hamper your studies. and if you have financial constraints, you can either make arrangements to transfer your credits to some other university (AIUB, BRACU, AUST or any other reputed ones)... believe me or not, things cannot be worse there. most possibly you'll get more facilities than you get at nsu, at a much lower price. the only thing you won't be getting is the nsu certificate, which for some weird reasons, bear some weight of its own.

the press conference today was shockingly and absurdly unsuccessful. if we were at point zero before it, now we are somewhere in the negative region. we didn't get to talk to the media about any of the things that are important, concerning the tuition hike being unlawful and the vandalism incident or the police attack on the students.

anyways, we are not quitting the protest yet. the protest must go on, but we need to gather more people for it. do not let the steps of the BOG get to you, because that is exactly what they want. they have bought pretty much everyone there is to buy, which i believe, they see as an investment. just think of all the money they will make once the new semester starts.

does anyone mind if i call them mother-f*cking SOBs?

the protest must go on... and those SOBs will feel sorry someday. however, it is advised that we lay off for a couple of days. we are trying to get more exposure from the media, so that we can get public sentiment and media sentiment alike in favor of our movement. if we can highlight the whole thing a little bit more than it is right now, it will be possible to attract other universities beside us. if you haven't already realized, the issue at hand is not what it was at the beginning, but much more than that. nsu being the #1 private university (!), all other private universities will look up for examples from what we do. and you know what? WE WILL SET ONE FOR THEM! they may have to go through the same sh*t with their authority someday.

that is why we cannot stop the protest. but we must proceed as a single entity, with no recognized leader and a good strategy. come on... some of the brightest minds in the whole country are with us! can't we think of something?

do not worry much about what's going to happen if we are caught and brought to book. the funny thing is... the more people get involved, the less disaster we will endure. just think what would happen if all the students protest together? :)

we are thinking about calling another press conference, with students only... but it is not confirmed yet. it may include some of the faculty members (also, not confirmed yet) and some of the relatively senior students, who have already been exposed.

please try to contact your faculty members, WHOM YOU THINK YOU CAN TRUST and try to convince them to stand beside us. if they don't want to come forward, that's okay. but make sure that they will be there if something should happen to us.

and once again... thanks a lot for all the support the protesters have provided and the courage they have shown. god forbid... but if our efforts end up in ashes, do not feel sorry. we stand for what we think is right, and that is just about the single most powerful thing you can do nowadays. we are all individuals, but one in this thing. no matter how much everybody tries to demotivate you, trust your instincts.

and don't forget to gather people while you are at it... :) the next couple of days, the protests are going to be laid off a little bit, i guess, but there is no chance in hell that we are going to yield to the injustice easily. if there are no possibilities... well, then we are f*cked. but its the optimism that pays off at the end of the day, doesn't it?

take care everyone... see you soon. and have a nice day!

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

EMON — Tue, 12 May 2009 14:11:52 -0000

LET US NOT GO FOR ADVISING TILL THE TIME NSU AUTHORITY WITHDRAW THEIR NOTICE.

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

Maksudur Rahman — Tue, 12 May 2009 09:28:49 -0000

Office of VC: Dr. Hafiz G. A. Siddiqi’s safe heaven

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Dr. Hafiz G. A. Siddiqi said…“by blocking ( I don’t know how) such a big road, this act will create ill reputation for you as students of North South University (but not for him, lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

ruxana — Tue, 12 May 2009 07:05:02 -0000

wow...i think that's a great idea and personally i think the nsu student community (the ones who are protesting of course) should contact the faculty and get hold of the pvt university act...i think you guys are lucky you have teachers who got your back...you should all unite yourselves and use this to your advantage...if it was du (where i study) these things would not have been possible, because teachers there are scared to stand by their students (mostly because everything in du is a political affair after all)...so it is indeed great to see that the faculty is also supporting this cause...this is no time to sit back and watch...spread the message, and let people see the truth...i'm sure you people are not too far from getting justice...thumbs up to your faculty!

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

samarin — Tue, 12 May 2009 06:36:49 -0000

Emails from our faculty MMz:
From: MO ZAMAN
Mon 5/11/09 11:16 AM
My heart bled as I heard they beat up some of the girls. This is shameful. Don't these NSU people have children? I'm ashamed to be part of NSU teaching community.

From: MO ZAMAN
Sent: Mon 5/11/09 11:44 AM

Could anyone get hold of the Private University Act (1992, amended 1998)? I have a copy. But I want you to have a copy and discuss its contents with a lawyer, if you really are concerned about the fees that is. Ask your parents to become involved. I'd be right with you out there. Noone knows better how to handle this. What you don't know is that my contribution to NSU is much greater than that of all trustees or teachers.

But you must be sincere about this and not lose your head under any circumstance.

Re: Small Money, Big Numbers: Education as Business

raiseYOURvoice — Tue, 12 May 2009 06:19:05 -0000

dear FRIENDS,
plz keep your eyes on the tv screens...
check news bulletins for updates...
we are getting closer to get JUSTICE...
we need you all to know that we are doing nothing wrong...
& that's why we NEED YOUR SUPPORT...

>>> RAISE YOUR VOICE >>> STAND UNITED >>> AGAINST INJUSTICE...